scarrie:Mark_P1973:mwindass:Jake the Peg:
Re eseh I think wigan are just after a fee
This.
I wonder if we could sign him December this year and Wigan would release/loan him back for 2026.
All the noise is hes enjoying it here and the club want to keep him.
I've just posted a response to Ellam who commented very similar
i personally dont think Wigan would do that, and dont think we've invoked the extra year just to get a transfer fee
Eseh is only 21 and has masses of potential. I think Wigan signed him on that basis. We've had both Byrne and Hill sign for Wire and Hull respectively and both integral to our squad this year, so i would be surprised if we said we wanted to keep Eseh, and then let him go on loan for the season
IMO, the only reason we would do that is if his attitude at Wigan isnt right, but its clear from the outside that Cartwright is getting something out of him at Hull, so he's clearly enjoying being there. We need to make sure he feels the same at Wigan, and i see a long term contract to keep him at Wigan, but equally Hull could offer him a similar / better deal with more 1st team rugby and he may move on. The joys of the salary cap

and balancing a squad, glad i'm not a chief executive

It's a tricky business, especially for a club like Wigan that produce so many players. I imagine it's gotten even trickier with the change in the tampering deadline.
I actually like the change in the deadline as its sort of forced clubs to look at their recruitment / retention much earlier, and gives players opportunity to negotiate for their futures sooner too, which IMO is the key part of it. As we've seen this year, Wigan offered contracts to both Byrne and Hill, and they have chosen to move on. I dont have any inside knowledge about details, but you would think that financially both players may have been offered a better deal than Wigan put on the table given they are both squad type players, as opposed to nailed on starters, and the lure of 1st team rugby elsewhere could have been a big sway. Like you say, its a tricky business but the beauty of producing your own players is that they are initially cheaper to manage on the cap, but when it comes to contract negotiations, they are in a good place if they have got 1st team experience under their belts. With both Byrne and Hill this year, Wire and Hull are getting good players with a decent amount of 1st team experience, but luckily for Wigan we have 2-3 more youngsters coming through who can fulfil the role within a squad over the next couple of seasons when we have injuries to our prop rotation, so utilising the loan system and the odd game in the 1st team gets them ready for becoming a regular squad member