I'm still laughing at the delusion on redvee. They (mostly) refuse to give us any credit and a lot of them are willing to blame Wellens' setup, and naming and shaming individual players. They were world beaters on Good Friday but two weeks later they apparently need a full clear out before it becomes the second coming of the cunningham era. The knee jerk reaction is like that of a spoiled child that hasn't got what it usually expects. That crowd* was awful for a big cup game, zero reaction or motivation came from their supporters, so I can agree with the ones who note there's a growing disconnect between the players and the fans.

Back to us, overall I said I'd have been happy with us just giving them a good game, but the truth is we nullified everything they had in their nal. Actually in the Challenge Cup thread I did say we'd batter them! It will be very interested to see how we go about Saturday now, surely big Sam has got it drummed into them not to get cocky or complacent. Just really pleased with all the green shoots at the moment, but agree with others that we ought not to get too carried away.

*My rewatch was even more enjoyable hearing them cheer every tackle around the 45th minute, as if it was the 75th minute and they'd caned us defensively all through the half. Frightening arrogance that came back to well and truly bite them.

Yes, I remember that, but I think it was a 9s Competition not 7 A-Side.

I was asking about a 13 A-Side knock-out competition final, I can`t remember one after the Lancashire Cup Final that I related to.

I'm pretty sure we've won 6 of the last 7 knock out / play off games against St Helens...

I seem to recall they beat us at the HJ in a playoff eliminator by a Danny Richardson drop goal that hit the bar and went over? May have been about 5 years ago now i cannot remember.

I think that was a normal league game near the end of the season wasn't it?

Could well have been TBH. I just recall it having a playoff kind of occasion to it.