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Not sure how relevant this is, but the old army adage is that no plan survives the first bullet, so you need leaders among the troops who can think on their feet and adjust to developing situations.....I posted last year after sitting in the West that there was no talking behind the posts after an opposition try, and it was exactly the same last night (I was in the West again, right down pitch side): NOBODY going round the team and saying "try this" or "can you close x down faster". Just deer-in-the-headlights silence from the supposed leaders on the field who could/should have been getting a grip and giving guidance/orders/tips. Result: coach's plan goes out of the window after the first set and then it's every man for himself. Ratchford (in particular), Clark, Williams, and the other seniors are simply not doing their on-field battle management job....just my tuppence

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Quote: ratticusfinch "No coincidence that the best Wire side I’ve seen in 40 odd years included Monaghan, Briers, Hodgson and Morley. On top of being great players they were excellent leaders and thinkers. We have looked rudderless on the field for quite some time.'"


I’d say since the day Briers retired.

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I’d like to see Walker as captain personally, a local lad, seems to care and could be captain for years to come, I think he’d thrive with the responsibility. Sure I read somewhere part of Williams signing his new contract was that he’d be captain from next season, not sure how that plays out when a new coach comes in, but didn’t he captain England at the World Cup?

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Quote: BBTB "I’d like to see Walker as captain personally, a local lad, seems to care and could be captain for years to come, I think he’d thrive with the responsibility. Sure I read somewhere part of Williams signing his new contract was that he’d be captain from next season, not sure how that plays out when a new coach comes in, but didn’t he captain England at the World Cup?'"


He is vocal in the dressing room but you don’t see it on the pitch, who were actually picked as the leaders. Ratchford Mata’utia was another don’t know who else. Was McGuire one.

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Quote: karetaker "He is vocal in the dressing room but you don’t see it on the pitch, who were actually picked as the leaders. Ratchford Mata’utia was another don’t know who else. Was McGuire one.'"


The four-strong group will consist of half-back George Williams, new recruit Josh McGuire and centres Stefan Ratchford and Peter Mata'utia.
https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... roup-2023/
Quote: karetaker "He is vocal in the dressing room but you don’t see it on the pitch, who were actually picked as the leaders. Ratchford Mata’utia was another don’t know who else. Was McGuire one.'"


The four-strong group will consist of half-back George Williams, new recruit Josh McGuire and centres Stefan Ratchford and Peter Mata'utia.
https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... roup-2023/


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Quote: Saxy "Not sure how relevant this is, but the old army adage is that no plan survives the first bullet, so you need leaders among the troops who can think on their feet and adjust to developing situations.....I posted last year after sitting in the West that there was no talking behind the posts after an opposition try, and it was exactly the same last night (I was in the West again, right down pitch side)

Indeed. Compare and contrast with the likes of Andy Farrell, Sean O’Loughlin, Kevin Sinfield, James Roby, etc

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