What exactly is “something in the playoffs”? A victory and then getting knocked out? A battling defeat to Huddersfield? It’s so vague and far-reaching. Leeds should be aiming to win the grand final, every season. Is that realistic? Not in reality, but that should be the aspiration.

So nowhere this season and then top 4 next season, that’s your aim? That would mean it had taken Smith 3 full seasons to simply get us in the top 4. That’s absurd. Again, people are obsessed with this long, drawn out arduous transition period.

Wigan have a model of bringing through their own coaches. Saints have always been able to find the best from overseas willing to join SL. Smith is neither, he’s meh, nothingness.

The Momster will come good. It was a shame Lumb got injured so soon as it seemed they had the makings of a decent combination. I like Roberts but he doesn't seem to be a natural winger.

Roberts was training as a centre during the off-season. Fusitu'a's injury and the release of Olpherts, while maybe predictable, left Roberts as the last experienced outside back on the books. I don't think he's bad as a reserve. Its not his fault that he's ended up playing almost every week. It looks quite likely that he'll end up behind a few other players though, even without Fusitu'a. Lumb looks a better winger and McCormack and Simpson (touch wood) have more potential as centres. I'd be surprised if he's here much beyond this season.

A decent combination , they played one game together against a crap team

This got embarrassing a year ago.

Anyone other than the bottom 3 sides we see playing us as a guaranteed 2 points.

We are just awful and going backwards.
Doubt We will remove Smith before season end but that’s another year completely wasted.