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Quote: Milky121086 "That was how i felt at the time, misguided belief clearly but at the time i genuinely believed that some of the new signings would have made the necessary difference to propel us forward, in some cases they have been good signings (our pack IS bigger and stronger than last year, Pele has shown glimpses of his raw potential and EseEse and Ashworth look solid albeit the latter hasn't played much, I got it wrong admittedly so i do certainly recant certain parts of that previous post as clearly it hasn't turned out well in anyway shape or form, what i will say however is i strongly believe we are heading into and already in the early stages of a hugely important and exciting period for this club. We didn't have the wealth we now appear to have last September so are now able to get business done early (Hardaker, Holmes, Briscoe, Asiata already signed on for 2025) with only one of those counting towards the quota spots and likely to see
Quote: Milky121086 "Okunbur, Sao, Carlos leave on top of Hoy and Nu Brown giving us 4 quota spots'"
still to play with and a good chunk of that expected to go on a marquee 7 im excited, we are on the up again whether anyone likes it or not, there's not one fan who can claim otherwise as its not up for debate that a backline of what we will have next year plus a dream team top quality loose man and a marquee 7 with trueman also back fit to further compliment the aforementioned big back isn't HUGELY improved from where we have been past 2 or 3 seasons. Good detective work see you at Old Trafford somewhere down the line squire!'"


That's one positive with the signings of Holmes, Briscoe and dare I say Hardaker. If we fill the remaining quota places with quality then I would be pretty confident of securing a play-off place. That's a low bar but we have to be realistic in our expectations. Obviously that also depends who the coach is. What's the situation with Sao? I thought he had 1 year left on his contract.

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Quote: Dave K. "Probably 10th, think all other squads are better than ours except Cas and London.'"

leeds are poorly coached too. just being competitive and difficult to beat would feel like a massive step up

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Quote: Jake the Peg "leeds are poorly coached too. just being competitive and difficult to beat would feel like a massive step up'"

Fully agree, Jake. Partly why I’m not [itoo[/i concerned around the signings of Hardaker, Reynolds, Holmes. They’re competitors and give what have lacked for a long time in that department.

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Quote: Marcus's Bicycle "That's one positive with the signings of Holmes, Briscoe and dare I say Hardaker. If we fill the remaining quota places with quality then I would be pretty confident of securing a play-off place. That's a low bar but we have to be realistic in our expectations. Obviously that also depends who the coach is. What's the situation with Sao? I thought he had 1 year left on his contract.'"


Becoming Fireman Sam isnt he lol? I don't actually know tbf but i think he will either retire and go that route or we may offload, Yeah the quota spots are ultimately where this next period is going to rely on hugely, If we go sign a marquee overseas 7, a top quality 9 and a strong quick running NRL 2nd row and maybe a strike centre to offer comp laces with Hardaker/Sutcliffe etc then we will be a million times better.

I look at Warrington as the blue print for where we are. Just change of coach and a few personal and look where they are, not a massive overhaul of players from last year, its amazing what can be done with a few changes, as an example take Rovers... if all a sudden they lost Mikey Lewis, Hiku, Litten & Minchella they'd be nowhere near the top and that ultimately can be the difference, just have 3 or 4 top top level players in those key positions

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Quote: Milky121086 "Becoming Fireman Sam isnt he lol? I don't actually know tbf but i think he will either retire and go that route or we may offload, Yeah the quota spots are ultimately where this next period is going to rely on hugely, If we go sign a marquee overseas 7, a top quality 9 and a strong quick running NRL 2nd row and maybe a strike centre to offer comp laces with Hardaker/Sutcliffe etc then we will be a million times better.

I look at Warrington as the blue print for where we are. Just change of coach and a few personal and look where they are, not a massive overhaul of players from last year, its amazing what can be done with a few changes, as an example take Rovers... if all a sudden they lost Mikey Lewis, Hiku, Litten & Minchella they'd be nowhere near the top and that ultimately can be the difference, just have 3 or 4 top top level players in those key positions'"


Good points and also the likes of Martin, Charles and Staveley have already been blooded and have the potential to be quality first teamers.

I've heard good reports on Armstrong and Wainhouse. Injury permitting It would be great to see both having first team action sometime this season.

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Armstrong is back playing for the reserves so I'd expect him to play at some point once he is back up to speed.

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Rovers releasing two hookers, can see them signing Balmforth.

Would rather sign Chamberlain than Hardraker.

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Mike Cooper worth signing? Or too injury prone?

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Quote: Steve0 "Mike Cooper worth signing? Or too injury prone?'"


36 and injury prone, not for me.

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Quote: dandaman "People need to get a grip, very few British players available, those that are top class are gonna be after marquee contracts which we should be using on a half, prop and 2nd row. For what hardaker will cost your not going to get any better in terms of experience. One thing I'm certain of is you'll get him on the field more then carlos'"


definitely will next season because he wont be here

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Quote: Milky121086 "FFS our fans are just infuriating and are the biggest set of Hypocrites!!!! YES Hardaker off field hasn't covered himself in glory at all i think its fair to say that but hes a WINNER on the field and still plays at a high level and was less than a yar ago lifting the CC Trophy, In addition to that he stays fit!! 24 games played last year which will more than likely be more than Carlos has played across past 3 seasons! In regards of some of our fans being Hypocrites... Did we not support and love Stevie Michaels?? Last time i checked he was done for drug dealing in aus and was always on the bag when he came over... did anyone bat an eyelid? NO did it affect our team on the field? NO did he play well in big games for us? YES. Every club has players that have off field issues at some point in time (Minchella anyone?), as long as we can keep him fit and firing then its a great signing, hes loved by other players as on the field hes everything you need in a professional. GET A GRIP!! This is one of the most exciting periods for a few years with potentially some big big signings to follow so stop bloody moaning!!!!!!'"


if he had pace,strike and the ability to put his wingman away then i would say a decent signing irrespective of his age
The fact that he doesnt and we need some real strike at centre then you have to ask why he has been signed.
Hardly an exciting period when we have a backline of Briscoe,Hardaker and Sutcliffe WOW
Seen more pace in an egg and spoon race

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Quote: bonaire "if he had pace,strike and the ability to put his wingman away then i would say a decent signing irrespective of his age
The fact that he doesnt and we need some real strike at centre then you have to ask why he has been signed.
Hardly an exciting period when we have a backline of Briscoe,Hardaker and Sutcliffe WOW
Seen more pace in an egg and spoon race'"

egg and spoon races can be quite competitive, more like the 3 legged race or the sack race.

That backline makes one with brian blacker in it look positively quick

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Quote: Jake the Peg "he's already 32, he'll be 33 when he starts with us. I'm not bothered about his past, he's mostly been an idiot. It's more the playing side. Leigh fans are glad to see the back of him'"


A lot of fan backlash about this signing
wonder if he will actually play for us next season

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Quote: Steve0 "Mike Cooper worth signing? Or too injury prone?'"


Ring Myler Steve ASAP
definitely fits our age criteria

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