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Quote: vastman "That’s not true though I get your gist. Ellis had nothing to do with the East Stand, which is without doubt the biggest development at the club in the last hundred years. Difference is that the east stand was a collaborative effort, dozens played a part.'"


I’m not just talking about the East stand though am I
As I said if they fix the East Stand issues and refit it to the standards expected, do the North Stand as proposed, Build a new West stand as proposed and rebuild the club from the bottom up in terms of staff in all departments while overseeing our re entry into SL then that’s more than any other Chairman has achieved in 60+ years

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Quote: Eastern Wildcat "Nail on the head for me, especially in that last sentence.

Don't gwt me wrong, he did some good in the earlier years, but certainly stayed on too long.

Another observation Ive made recently, when Ellis has encountered a hurdle, such as the floodlights or water supply, he rolled his sleeves up and got on with sorting the issue with minimal fuss or ado. When, previously we've heard the blame card, before solving the problem.'"


He had no choice but to sort them seeing as they occured in his ownership of the club - what issues of a like nature
Did Carter not act on?
Why do people keep raking crap up when the club is now showing signs of resurgence?
With hindsight MC might well have said P... o..
To trinity and given his critics chance to stick their knives where the sun doesn't shine!

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Carter couldn’t say P*** o**
He had sunk around £270k of his dad’s money into the club and to get it back the club had to survive.
Likewise Chris Brereton for around £160k
Nothing wrong with that being their motive whatsoever but too many fans seem to think they did it because they love the club.
Don’t get confused, to get their money back they had to keep the club going
They got what they wanted and the fans saw another few years of SL
Win Win

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Quote: The Avenger "Carter couldn’t say P*** o**
He had sunk around £270k of his dad’s money into the club and to get it back the club had to survive.
Likewise Chris Brereton for around £160k
Nothing wrong with that being their motive whatsoever but too many fans seem to think they did it because they love the club.
Don’t get confused, to get their money back they had to keep the club going
They got what they wanted and the fans saw another few years of SL
Win Win'"


So you are criticising him for putting £270k into the club?

And then, in fact, leaving the loans in the club and not taking them out?

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Quote: 1315trinity "He had no choice but to sort them seeing as they occured in his ownership of the club - what issues of a like nature
Did Carter not act on?
Why do people keep raking crap up when the club is now showing signs of resurgence?
With hindsight MC might well have said P... o..
To trinity and given his critics chance to stick their knives where the sun doesn't shine!'"


The debts that were paid off were from the previous owner. He was on the board but not the owner. He was part of the decision making that got the club into that situation which he was happy to go along with.

I think that the vast majority of us want to move on, and put the past behind us, I certainly do, its not helped when some people try to compare tje too, and still want to keep praising MC and JM almost 6 months after theyve gone

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Quote: Eastern Wildcat "The debts that were paid off were from the previous owner. He was on the board but not the owner. He was part of the decision making that got the club into that situation which he was happy to go along with.

I think that the vast majority of us want to move on, and put the past behind us, I certainly do, its not helped when some people try to compare tje too, and still want to keep praising MC and JM almost 6 months after theyve gone'"


I'm not praising them but I will not stand by when when others slag them off unjustifiably.
If MC hadn't taken the helm there wouldn't be a club - end of.
Now I think its reasonable to be appreciative of that
I'm done others have their view I have mine based on fact
I look forward to a brighter future !

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