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Quote: Steves "If Rhinos had not caved in against Giants the other week (by the way no excuses for this but almost every team if not all are capable of such a result). We would be joint top of the league. We would still have an horrendous injury issue and we would still have a boat load of whiners on this site!
Are we a good side? Certainly not but we are far better than last season when every time we played a bottom two or three side we lost.
What I am trying to say is we are not a top team but we are by no means as bad as some on here would suggest.'"


This 2 points off the top of the league - we're going pretty well etc etc is misleading. Apart from Catalan (who let us off the hook with drop ball on our line time and again) we've lost against every good side we've played and we're out of the cup. We were abysmal against Hull and totally capitulated against Huddersfield, got out of jail against Cas who were awful and very average against London just to name a few. Our stats are dreadful in attack and defence and we're only one win better than last season at this stage.

now if we do something in these next 2 then yes i'd absolutely agree we're going in the right direction and it's not as bad as it seems but at present there's little signs of progress from last year. very little.

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Quote: Simmo71 "Getting very much like the political landscape on here.
The spectrum gets wider and the views get more extreme.
Shame because in amongst all the anger and frustration is some interesting stuff.
Good to see you back contributing Chris.'"


Agree Simmo it has got a bit rowdy, makes me feel a bit like the great Steve McCroskey, “looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue”.

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Quote: Seth "I think most can hold mitigating factors alongside measured expectations and even accounting for that Smith has come up a long way short for a sustained period. Like having your first choice hand picked spine available for most games and then still looking like strangers. We can bemoan or rationalise the inability to recruit as needed in the pack but even when we do have Field position and momentum it's been awful end products more often than not. There's been plenty of opportunities for smith to demonstrate that we're going in the right direction despite mitigating factors but the things he can control are full of holes too.'"

Spine can't show what it can do without us being able to apply any pressure and control possession at all. Our error count is killing us (again). Also Frawley as part of that spine, and to a lesser extent the others, have at times been a big part of the error count.

I would agree with you in that RS recruited and coaches these players, and as a unit I don't think they're delivering. Having said that: Croft is real quality I'm a fan of his; he needs better support to show real form though. Ackers I'm reasonably happy with, he's consistent. Frawley is too rocks and diamonds for my liking; he doesn't offer enough on the good side to outweigh the kicking in particular. Miller... conundrum there; when he has space he's MOM candidate every game. Really like his skill level at the line. We need to stop him kicking though, it's not rocket science and that side infuriates me.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Frawley is too rocks and diamonds for my liking'"


All I've seen is rocks to be honest Jim.

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Quote: FGB "All I've seen is rocks to be honest Jim.'"

Not making your kicks drives me insane I have to say. He is solid in defence mostly, and he does have a decent ability to break the line here and there, he just has zero pace to capitalise on it. It's really hard to justify a slow half back.

I'm not seeing too much evidence that he's organising us where we need to be, and he is clearly low on confidence at the moment.

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Agreed. When we signed ally hoping he would be the organiser / kicker that we craved and Croft would be the garnish.
There's been some games when he's shown some flashes of brilliance but again in line with team its far too inconsistent.
Weve brought him in to do a job and respectfully, hes not cutting it.

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