I said before the season started that the Smith situation would be assessed after 10-12 games.
It's interesting after 10 games.
The performances in the main have been very poor - and are a big cause for concern.
But the fact is that we have won 6 games and are 2 points off the leading pack.
We will probably lose the next 2, but then have 4 very winnable games.
Let's assess after those 6 games.
We could be in the mix, we could be in the bottom 4.

FWIW, there is no point sacking Smith mid-season, regardless of where we are.
But if we continue with the dour performances I think we should be looking to change at the end of the season.
The biggest thing that needs to change is the manner of the performances.
We look unstructured, disorganised, lacking leadership and just badly coached.
But we are low on confidence.
A few wins could turn that round.
Defeats will sharpen the knives.

Bring up the past ? You may care to reflect on last season which was a disaster, several posters on here questioned Smith’s ability. We were all shouted down. Told it was a transition period and everything would be ok this season. We have two upcoming games in which everyone is giving us no chance whatsoever. That’s a measure of how far we have sunk. Once again (sigh) I will praise praise Smith if he turns the situation around.
Whoever is the coach next season, would like Danny McGuirre to come in as the assistant coach.

My assumption is that Smith can’t grasp what some other managers grasp. Big difference. I assume you don’t rate Rob Oates or his work at Headingley because he never played the game , or does he get a free pass from you ? I don’t know if your “lack of respect for expertise and experience” is related to Leeds Rhinos, Rugby League or life in general. If it’s the latter , people are more than ever entitled to question people who rely on their supposed expertise and experience to earn a living. There are some dangerous people out there who trade on those two supposed attributes. As for carrying my own cross, I think you’ve been listening to too many JJB podcasts.

I dunno, I’m not seeing much questioning on here I am seeing a witch hunt from some.

It’s like, if I questioned you on how you did your job, without doing it myself and without knowing what I was talking about / and if I said you were **** at it would my opinion be worth as much as yours? Not all opinions are worth the same.

A lot of comments about how we shouldn`t sack RS mid season - this is the best time to sack him. He has failed in all areas , and teams are already looking at recruitment for next season.
Does anybody in their right mind want to let RS loose on next years recruitment ?

I do, if that means you don’t think I’m in my right mind I’ll wear it.

He has one more recruitment cycle for me. I like who he’s got rid of more than who he’s brought in so far, and clearly we need better signings than Frawley going forward. I’m hoping with AMT on board now, Croft is the first of several higher profile signings…

It's not about recruitment.
It's about playing style, an identity, moving forward.
On that he's failing miserably

It is partly about recruitment in my view. I don’t believe this current squad is good enough to top Super League. Do you?

Identity is a bit of a buzz word again, I don’t know what that’s supposed to mean.

Playing style… I think there is a way we want to play, but we have lost the ruck too much this year and also made too many stupid errors. I’d like to see us more dominant in D; bringing us back round to players again, especially in the middle.

We are a prop short, ideally two needed. Both need to be guys who can offer what our current cant.
I cant see us being top 4 until that happens and we get some luck with being able to field our first choice outside backs for large chunks of the season.
Something that hasn't happened for a while.

However, this team is better than results suggest. They just can't seem to do anything well consistently and look poor in structure/ organisation etc.
Who is to blame and why it's happening is where people disagree

identity is a style of play that runs through the club. as you know but use an excuse jim. I like you but its all excuses. 2 years on we still look a disorganised mess. no structure no style of play. but he deserves longer? really?

As you say how long does he need before we get structure which is probably the most important factor.
Look at Willie Peters who has been for a shorter time at Hull KR and what he has done for them.
Anybody who has watched Frawley at the Giants or the NRL knows he was never the answer.
MOM looked decent in the NRL but has been average so far and needs alot of improvement.

even average players are OK with good structure and good coaching. all clubs have average players.

Agree that a good or coach will get the best out of average players. Look at Wayne Bennett at the Dolphins a team made up of largely cast offs from the NRL.
Regarding Frawley and MOM to a lesser extent I was trying to say his choice of recruitment has not been brilliant either.
Before anybody says it, yes we signed Croft and Akers but anybody who watches rugby would know they would be a vast improvement on existing players.

That's fair enough, but let's include McDonnell who's been good on the whole, and even Ruan, Roberts and Hudson are reasonable project signings (for what they are).

Mom is a good player, I think we'll see better from him later this year and he's very good for the winger outside him. He's disappointed me so far but you can see a player in there somewhere.

Frawley - I can see what they were thinking with him, but it's not working out so far. Sure he'll play other games this year but.. he was always a stop-gap until the youth came through I guess.

Olpherts was a signing made on stats not quality, and I think we've retained a couple of players we probably shouldn't too. We'll see.

The Momster will come good. It was a shame Lumb got injured so soon as it seemed they had the makings of a decent combination. I like Roberts but he doesn't seem to be a natural winger.