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Quote: KaeruJim "Your assumption here is that Smith can’t grasp what you can grasp though?

At the end of the day, everyone who works for Leeds for their living and isn’t just an amateur player who never made it or another sort of speccie - they know more about the game and about the club than any of us.

I actually don’t agree that all opinions are equal by the way, but the curse of social media etc is that people just polarise and it feeds reactionary behaviour.

There is a lack of respect for expertise and experience these days - and respect for the fact that pretty much everyone, like you, is just trying to carry their own crosses.

This isn’t to give RS a free pass but some of the arguments against him on here are paper thin. Heard on the world famous podcast about how much JOC has developed over 2 years. Credit given to various players for that. Hm hmmm.'"



My assumption is that Smith can’t grasp what some other managers grasp. Big difference. I assume you don’t rate Rob Oates or his work at Headingley because he never played the game , or does he get a free pass from you ? I don’t know if your “lack of respect for expertise and experience” is related to Leeds Rhinos, Rugby League or life in general. If it’s the latter , people are more than ever entitled to question people who rely on their supposed expertise and experience to earn a living. There are some dangerous people out there who trade on those two supposed attributes. As for carrying my own cross, I think you’ve been listening to too many JJB podcasts.

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Wasn't Mom the one that missed pre season due to family stuff and the move?.

Bit unlucky as with any injury,I think people are just so frustrated with how often Fusi and Newman are out that now any new guy that gets an injury will be the cherry on the cake for the tipping point

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "Some of the best GF winning Leeds teams have been underdogs - in 2007, 2008, 2011, 2012 etc - what's your point Flexwheeler? You do realise that good teams are not always expected to win, right?

The revisionism on this forum in the last few weeks really has been epic. We've been hearing that Furner would have been a better coach than Smith if only JJB hadn't complained and got GH and Sinfield to cut short his tenure, and now being an underdog is a sign of a team playing poorly. Jesus wept.'"


When you make decisions about coaches you have to support them through the really tough times and support the changes they want to make. You cannot be forever looking back as to how it was in your day and your methods of working. That was a major issue. If the coach is not supported by a senior player who is using a divide and conquer strategy with players in the squad the coach has no chance unless he removes the player which wasn't an option. Perhaps if Furner had a squad all pulling in the same direction things could have been different.

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That's nonsense. Under Furner we lost eight of our first ten games. He brought over the hopelessly unfit Lolohea and kept picking him, amongst other bad decisions. If Lolohea had been a world beater and we hadn't been playing terribly then even if JJB or others were muttering behind the scenes they wouldn't have been listened to.

Before us Furner's tenure of the Raiders was a chaotic mess. He was only appointed there because of his links with the club (sounds familiar?) and his dad. If he had been anyone else he would have been gone more than a year before he was eventually kicked out, with a 43% win rate over five generally dire seasons.

Once he was hooked at the Raiders he didn't get a look-in as a first team coach anywhere else for SIX years until Leeds brought him in. Lots of NRL jobs came and went in that time. Nobody else was interested.

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Quote: Once were Loiners "That's nonsense. Under Furner we lost eight of our first ten games. He brought over the hopelessly unfit Lolohea and kept picking him, amongst other bad decisions. If Lolohea had been a world beater and we hadn't been playing terribly then even if JJB or others were muttering behind the scenes they wouldn't have been listened to.

Before us Furner's tenure of the Raiders was a chaotic mess. He was only appointed there because of his links with the club (sounds familiar?) and his dad. If he had been anyone else he would have been gone more than a year before he was eventually kicked out, with a 43% win rate over five generally dire seasons.

Once he was hooked at the Raiders he didn't get a look-in as a first team coach anywhere else for SIX years until Leeds brought him in. Lots of NRL jobs came and went in that time. Nobody else was interested.'"

Not defending Furner, but pretty sure Lolohea was a McDermott signing before the axe finally fell. Either that or he was a Sinfield signing before Furner arrived.

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Quote: RAPIDO "The Momster you're having a laugh I've seen more meat on a butcher's pencil copy and paste the earth shattering wrecking ball Fusitua un interested journey men living of performances playing in quality teams, their not now and have been found out like it or not the proof is reality former Dudd latter looking the former!
That’s f’king painful to read.

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